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Categories for discussion (CfD) is the central venue for discussing specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories and stub types in accordance with the guidelines for categorization, category naming and stub articles.

For detailed instructions about using CfD, see "How to use CfD" below. Briefly, nominations are handled through one of two processes:

Speedy renaming and merging, for uncontroversial proposals that meet specified criteria—see "Speedy renaming and merging" below.
Full discussion, for all other proposals. Discussions typically remain open for at least seven days and are closed once a rough consensus has formed or no objections to the nomination are raised.

Except in uncontroversial cases such as reverting vandalism, do not amend or depopulate a category once it has been nominated at CfD as this hampers other editors' efforts to evaluate a category and participate in the discussion.

When a category is renamed or merged with another category, in limited circumstances it may be helpful to leave an instance of the {{Category redirect|...}} template on the category's former page. See "Redirecting categories" below for more information.

Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a CfD request that is limited in scope to renaming, as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the request closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of a CfD move discussion to determine whether or not the close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines. CfDs involving deletion should be reviewed at Wikipedia:Deletion review.

Scope

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CfD is intended only for specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories or stub types. For general discussion about how to improve the category system, use other appropriate venues such as Wikipedia talk:Categorization, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories, and any relevant WikiProjects' talk pages.

Current discussions

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Discussions awaiting closure

Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 5 (1 open)

See also the list of individual discussions awaiting closure here and the list of full open discussions awaiting closure here.

How to use CfD

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Nomination procedure

Twinkle

You may use Twinkle to facilitate CfD nominations. To install Twinkle, go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and check "Twinkle" in the "Browsing" section. Use the now-installed "XfD" (Start a deletion discussion) tab while viewing the page you want to nominate.

Twinkle only allows you to nominate a single category or stub template. For bundled nominations including multiple categories, see § MassCFD.

MassCFD

You can use the script User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massXFD to automatically make mass nominations.

Manual nominations

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Preliminary steps.

Before nominating a category:

Read and understand the guidance for category names and overcategorization.
For categories containing biographical articles, read the guidance for categorization of people.
For categories containing the user pages of Wikipedians, read the guidance for user categories.

In the following special cases:

If a category is a red link, then it is already deleted (or was never created in the first place) and does not need to be nominated.
If a category is unpopulated, use {{db-catempty}} to request it be speedily deleted in 7 days.
If a category is populated solely by a template (other than a stub template, see #Stub types below) and you are proposing to delete both the category and template, follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion.

For further information, see Wikipedia:Categorization and Wikipedia:Manual of Style.

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Edit the category.

Add one of the following templates at the beginning of the category page (not the talk page) of every category to be discussed. For nominations involving large numbers of categories, help adding these templates can be requested here.

Otherwise, if nominating a single category:

For deleting, use {{subst:Cfd}}
For merging, use {{subst:Cfm|Other category}}
- For merging to two categories, use {{subst:Cfm-double|Other category 1|Other category 2}}
For renaming, use {{subst:Cfr|Proposed name}}
For splitting, use {{subst:Cfs|Proposed name 1|Proposed name 2}}
For converting the category into a list, use {{subst:Cfl|Proposed name}}
For other options (containerization, etc.), use {{subst:Cfd|type=nature of proposed discussion}}

If nominating a group of related categories, use a bundled nomination:

For deleting, use {{subst:Cfd|CfD section name}}
For merging, use {{subst:Cfm|Other category|CfD section name}}
- For merging to two categories, use {{subst:Cfm-double|Other category 1|Other category 2|CfD section name}}
For renaming, use {{subst:Cfr|Proposed name|CfD section name}}
For splitting, use {{subst:Cfs|Proposed name 1|Proposed name 2|CfD section name}}
For converting the category into a list, {{subst:Cfl|Proposed name|CfD section name}}
For other options (containerization, etc.), use {{subst:Cfd|type=nature of proposed discussion|CfD section name}}

Include "CfD", "CfM", "CfR", "CfS" or "CfL" in the edit summary, and do not mark the edit as minor. Preview before saving.
To add the template for previous nomination days, use the "full" version of the template by appending "full" to the template name, i.e. {{cfd full}}, {{cfm full}}, {{cfr full}}, {{cfs full}} and {{cfl full}}. Use the |day=, |month= and |year= parameters to make the banner link to the correct CfD page.
Consider adding {{subst:cfd notice|Category name|2024 December 1|CfD section name}} ~~~~ to the talk page of the category's creator.
For details about these templates, see each template's documentation.

III

Create the CFD section.

Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries.

Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) to copy and paste one of the templates below. When inserting category names into these template's parameters, except the text= parameter, omit the Category: prefix and do not use wikilinks, as the template takes care of this.

If nominating a single category:

For deleting, use {{subst:Cfd2|Obsolete category|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed deletion. ~~~~}}
For merging, use {{subst:Cfm2|Origin category|Destination category|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed merge. ~~~~}}
- For merging to two categories, use {{subst:Cfm2|Origin category|Destination category 1|target2=Destination category 2|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed merge. ~~~~}}
For renaming, use {{subst:Cfr2|Current category|Proposed name|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed rename. ~~~~}}
For splitting, use {{subst:Cfs2|Current category|Proposed category 1|Proposed category 2|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed split. ~~~~}}
For converting the category into a list, use {{subst:Cfc2|Current category|Proposed article|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed conversion. ~~~~}}
For other options (containerization, etc.), use {{subst:Cfd2|Current category|type=other type|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed conversion. ~~~~}}

For a bundled nomination, use one of the standard templates to build the "Cfd section name" for the first nominated category. After saving that, the second and subsequent nominations must be inserted manually, as follows:

==== Cfd section name ====

* 1st category

* 2nd category [Make clear whether you propose deletion, merging or renaming]

* Your reason for nominating the categories, and signature.

If a bundled nomination is too long, consider using {{hidden}} to hide some of the nominated categories.
In your reason, use links if mentioning articles or categories. To link to a category, use the colon trick by adding a colon (:) to the beginning of the link, e.g. [[:Category:Foo]].
Preview before saving to check that your nomination is formatted correctly, and remember to include your signature at the end of the nomination.

Stub types

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Preliminary steps.

In general, a stub type consists of a stub template and a dedicated stub category. Before nominating a stub type for deletion, merging or renaming:

Read and understand guidance for creating stub types and stub type naming conventions.
Review the list of existing stub types—be advised, this list may not be comprehensive.
If you wish to:
- Create a new stub type—follow the procedure for proposing new stub types.
- Delete, merge or rename a stub category only, without deleting or renaming the associated stub template—follow the instructions above this section.
- Delete or rename a stub template—continue to section II.

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Edit the template.

Add one of the following tags at the beginning of the template to be discussed.

For deletion, use {{subst:Sfd-t|Section name}}
For renaming, use {{subst:Sfr-t|Proposed name|Section name}}

Please include "SFD" or "SFR" in the edit summary, and don't mark the edit as minor. Preview before saving.
Consider notifying the template's creator on their talk page. To find the contributor, check the page history of the stub template.

III

Create the CFD section.

Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries.

Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) and paste the following text (remember to update the default parameters):

For deletion, use {{subst:sfd-t2|TemplateName|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed deletion. ~~~~}}
For renaming, use {{subst:sfr-t2|TemplateOldName|TemplateNewName|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed deletion. ~~~~}}

In your rationale, mention how many articles currently use the template to help other editors. When linking to a category in your rationale, always add a colon (:) to the beginning of the link, like [[:Category:Foo]]. This makes a category link that can be seen on the page, and avoids putting this page into the category you are nominating.
Preview before saving to check that your nomination is formatted correctly, and remember to include your signature at the end of the nomination.

Notifying interested projects and editors

In addition to the steps listed above, you may choose to invite participation by editors who are likely to be informed about a nominated category. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing. In addition, to help make your messages about the CfD discussion clear, avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations, link to relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the discussion itself.

Notifying related WikiProjects

WikiProjects consist of groups of editors who are interested in a particular subject. If a nominated category is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, consider adding a brief, neutral note on their talk page(s) about the nomination. You may use {{subst:cfd notice|Category name|2024 December 1|CfD section name}} ~~~~ or write a personalized message.

Tagging the nominated category's talk page with a relevant WikiProject's banner will include the category in that WikiProject's Article Alerts if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a nominated category with {{WikiProject Physics}} will add the discussion to Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.

Notifying substantial contributors to the category

While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and main contributors of the category that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, check the category's page history or talk page. You may use {{Cfd notice}} to inform the category's creator and all other editors.

Notifying other interested editors

It may be helpful to invite other subject-matter experts by posting a message on the talk page of the most closely related article, such as Protein family for Category:Protein families. You may use {{Cfdnotice}} for this.

Closing procedure

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After seven days, someone will close the discussion according to the consensus that formed or, if needed, relist it to allow more discussion. Editors closing discussions must follow the administrator instructions and, except in the case of a "keep" or "no consensus" outcome, implement the result or log it at the Working page to ensure it is implemented.

Redirecting categories

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In general, an unpopulated category should be deleted (see speedy deletion criterion C1) because it is not useful for navigation and sorting. In limited circumstances, and because categories cannot be redirected using "hard" redirects (i.e. #REDIRECT[[''target'']]), we use a form of "soft redirect" to solve the issue. You can create a category redirect by adding {{Category redirect|target}} to the category page. Bots patrol these categories and move articles into the "redirect" targets.

In particular, category redirects are used at the former category name when we convert hyphens into en dashes (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations). It is also helpful to set up category redirects from titles with plain letters (i.e. characters on a standard keyboard) where the category names include diacritics.

A list of redirected categories is available at Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories.

Speedy renaming and merging

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This page has a backlog that requires the attention of willing editors.
Please remove this notice when the backlog is cleared.

Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.

Determine which speedy criterion applies
Tag category page with {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}} or {{subst:cfm-speedy|Merge target}}
List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page

Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.

Requests may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.

Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}} with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on G7.

To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:

Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~

You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.

Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.

If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.

Speedy criteria

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The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:

C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes

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Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.

C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices

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Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).

C2C: Consistency with established category tree names

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Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names

This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).

C2D: Consistency with main article's name

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Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.

C2E: Author request

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This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.

C2F: One eponymous page

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This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use {{subst:cfm-speedy}} (speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article). When listing the nomination at WP:CFDS, you must manually add all the appropriate parent categories as targets if the member page is not already in them.

Admin instructions

When handling the listings:

Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.

If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.

Applying speedy criteria in full discussions

A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.

Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here

If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.

If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.

Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:

* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~

If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:

* REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~

To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:

* NO BOTS [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~

Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}

A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 21:55, 29 November 2024 (UTC). Currently, there are 784 open requests (refresh).

Current requests

Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).

Category:Articles containing Kituba (Democratic Republic of Congo)-language text to Category:Articles containing Kituba (Democratic Republic of the Congo)-language text – C2B: Check out the naming of Category:Democratic Republic of the Congo and its subcats, along with Wikipedia:Category names#How to name the country. Wikihistorian (talk) 15:47, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Category:Articles containing Mono (Democratic Republic of Congo)-language text to Category:Articles containing Mono (Democratic Republic of the Congo)-language text
- Category:Articles containing Boko (Democratic Republic of Congo)-language text to Category:Articles containing Boko (Democratic Republic of the Congo)-language text
  Can't change language categories in speedy as these need to be changed in Module:Lang, as these usually use the official language titles given in the ISO standard. Probably worth adding a note about this to this page. Gonnym (talk) 15:07, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Grobin County to Category:Grobiņas apriņķis – C2D. Cuvaj (talk) 08:44, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Goldingen County to Category:Kuldīgas apriņķis – C2D. Cuvaj (talk) 08:44, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Illuxt County to Category:Ilūkstes apriņķis – C2D. Cuvaj (talk) 08:43, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Friedrichstadt County to Category:Jaunjelgavas apriņķis – C2D. Cuvaj (talk) 08:43, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Windau County to Category:Ventspils apriņķis – C2D. Cuvaj (talk) 08:42, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Tuckum County to Category:Tukuma apriņķis – C2D. Cuvaj (talk) 08:42, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Talsen County to Category:Talsu apriņķis – C2D. Cuvaj (talk) 08:41, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Doblen County to Category:Dobeles apriņķis – C2D. Cuvaj (talk) 08:37, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Bauske County to Category:Bauskas apriņķis – C2D. Cuvaj (talk) 08:36, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Aizpute County to Category:Aizputes apriņķis – C2D. Cuvaj (talk) 08:35, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:People from Kreis Wolmar to Category:People from Valmieras apriņķis – C2D. Cuvaj (talk) 08:34, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Kreis Wolmar to Category:Valmieras apriņķis – C2D. Cuvaj (talk) 08:34, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:People from Kreis Walk to Category:People from Valkas apriņķis – C2D. Cuvaj (talk) 08:33, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Kreis Walk to Category:Valkas apriņķis – C2D. Cuvaj (talk) 08:33, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:People from Kreis Wenden to Category:People from Cēsu apriņķis – C2D. Cuvaj (talk) 08:32, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Kreis Wenden to Category:Cēsu apriņķis – C2D. Cuvaj (talk) 08:32, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:People from Kreis Riga to Category:People from Rīgas apriņķis – C2D. Cuvaj (talk) 08:31, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Kreis Riga to Category:Rīgas apriņķis – C2D: main article - Rīgas apriņķis Cuvaj (talk) 08:31, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All corresponding articles were moved in 2019 without any discussion. Ymblanter (talk) 21:15, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose whole batch for speedy, I'd like to see evidence that these are the common names indeed. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:53, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  @Ymblanter @Marcocapelle I'm not sure if these are common names. Maybe "Foo County" is a common name, but definitely not "Foo Kreis" or "Hauptmannschaft Foo" or Foo Captaincy (see Dobeles apriņķis#History for example). However, I want the categories to match the article titles. Should I start a full CFD discussion or request that the articles be moved instead? Cuvaj (talk) 09:31, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  This is a difficult situation, since the divisions were the same during 200 years or so, and they belonged to different states with different state languages. I would say it is best to open RM on the articles, and whatever the outcome is we can spedy process the categories (assuming it would be still needed). Ymblanter (talk) 14:26, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Man-eaters of India to Category:Man-eating animals of India – C2B: per Man-eating animal/Category:Man-eating animals. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 03:36, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think it should probably be Category:Man-eating animals in India. A small distinction, but "of" implies they are commonplace in India somehow. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:37, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
..."of" is the standard for this sort of category. It has nothing to do with impling they're "commonplace". - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:11, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am unsure what you mean by "the standard". The parent category is Category:Animal attacks in India. "In" would appear to match up. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:17, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Opposed requests

Category:Eastern Ukraine campaign to Category:Eastern front of the Russian invasion of Ukraine – C2D: per Eastern front of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Family27390 (talk) 18:48, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Category:Battles of the Eastern Ukraine campaign to Category:Battles of the Eastern front of the Russian invasion of Ukraine
  Oppose speedy Main article was only recently renamed and without discussion, thus C2D doesn't apply. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 19:31, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Northern Ukraine campaign to Category:Northern front of the Russian invasion of Ukraine – C2D: per Northern front of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Family27390 (talk) 18:48, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Category:Battles of the Northern Ukraine campaign to Category:Battles of the Northern front of the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Category:Southern Ukraine campaign to Category:Southern front of the Russian invasion of Ukraine – C2D: per Southern front of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Family27390 (talk) 18:48, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Category:Battles of the Southern Ukraine campaign to Category:Battles of the Southern front of the Russian invasion of Ukraine
  Oppose speedy Main article was only recently renamed and without discussion, thus C2D doesn't apply. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 19:33, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Delta College Mustangs football players to Category:San Joaquin Delta Mustangs football players – C2C: Merge, two different names for the same category. Habst (talk) 15:52, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose speedy There is no clear convention for the proposed format. Half of the subcategories of Category:San Joaquin Delta Mustangs uses the current name, while the other half of the proposed one. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 19:37, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Works based on The Bacchae to Category:Works based on The Bacchae – Reason per Category:Works based on The Libation Bearers SorghumBean (talk) 08:02, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Works based on Antigone (Sophocles play) to Category:Works based on Antigone (Sophocles play) – Reason per Category:Works based on The Libation Bearers SorghumBean (talk) 08:02, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@SorghumBean: Er...at first I was going to tag these for you, but then realised neither of these is an actual renaming. Italics in titles are done by code on the pages itself, it's not part of the page title. So there's nothing to do here at CFDS with these two. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 08:07, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose above two. The italics in the title should be achived via {{italics title}} and not renaming the categories. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 19:14, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Cedar Fair amusement parks to Category:Former Cedar Fair amusement parks – C2C: The Cedar Fair branding has been retired. This category should be expanded to include all properties that were formerly under the Cedar Fair umbrella. Astros4477 (talk) 00:36, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose speedy I don’t see any speedy criteria that would apply for this. (C2C to what?) Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 03:41, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:NBA championship to Category:NBA champions – C2E. HanTsî (talk) 02:26, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please provide a reason why you want to make this change Assadzadeh (talk) 09:42, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @HanTsî: see above. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:45, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  908677178 HanTsî (talk) 09:48, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Oppose speedy, 3 articles and 1 subcategory aren't about champions. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:08, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Sailing clubs in New York (state) to Category:Yacht clubs in New York (state) – C2C: parent is Yacht clubs in the United States ^SMason_Garrison 01:55, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose speedy Except 2 of the 24 subcategories of Category:Yacht clubs in the United States use "Sailing clubs" instead "Yacht clubs", thus per C2C it would make more sense to rename that instead. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 13:21, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose the sport is called sailing not yachting. The sport even changed it name in 1996 with the IOC. I set most of these categories up. Lets do the change the other way round. Yachty4000 (talk) 20:54, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Sailing clubs in Thailand to Category:Yacht clubs in Thailand – C2C: parent is Yacht clubs by country ^SMason_Garrison 01:33, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, the sports name is sailing not yachting the changes should be the other way round. The term Yachting and yacht club is a historical legacy. Yachty4000 (talk) 20:48, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Sailing clubs in Fiji to Category:Yacht clubs in Fiji – C2C: Parent is Yacht clubs by country ^SMason_Garrison 01:28, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose you should have grouped these changes your proposing Yachty4000 (talk) 20:49, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Swedish politicians of Assyrian/Syriac descent to Category:Swedish politicians of Assyrian descent – C2D: per Assyrians in Sweden. Surayeproject3 (talk)

Category:Swedish people of Assyrian or Syriac descent to Category:Swedish people of Assyrian descent – C2D: per Assyrians in Sweden. Surayeproject3 (talk)

Oppose speedy for both above, this has been at full CfD before: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_2#Assyrian/Syriac_categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:12, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Are you saying that you oppose the speedy renaming, or the renaming as a whole? Would love your clarification if you can, and if need be, I'd love to have a bigger discussion on the renaming of the categories. Surayeproject3 (talk) 19:34, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Surayeproject3: I am opposing the speedy processing, while I haven't been weighing the substantive merits or drawbacks of this proposal yet. I happened to remember that it was once at full CfD. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:21, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Team Cali players to Category:Toros del Valle players – C2D. HanTsî (talk) 16:03, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@HanTsî: Toros del Valle says that a new team was founded under the name Toros del Valle, and replaced Team Cali in the league. Does that mean all Team Cali players are retroactively Toros del Valle players? jlwoodwa (talk) 19:18, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Mahls to Category:Mahl people – C2D: per Mahl people. 1857a (talk) 23:58, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose speedy, convention is to have "people" categories populated with biographies. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:20, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On hold pending other discussion

Category:United States–European Union relations to Category:European Union–United States relations – C2D: and C2C (cousins). Web-julio (talk) 23:06, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Category:Fiji–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Fiji relations
- Category:The Gambia–European Union relations to Category:European Union–the Gambia relations
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- Category:Guatemala–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Guatemala relations
- Category:Guyana–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Guyana relations
- Category:Holy See–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Holy See relations
- Category:Iceland–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Iceland relations
- Category:India–European Union relations to Category:European Union–India relations
- Category:Indonesia–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Indonesia relations
- Category:Iran–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Iran relations
- Category:Iraq–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Iraq relations
- Category:Israel–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Israel relations
- Category:Ivory Coast–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Ivory Coast relations
- Category:Jamaica–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Jamaica relations
- Category:Japan–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Japan relations
- Category:Jordan–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Jordan relations
- Category:Kazakhstan–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Kazakhstan relations
- Category:Kosovo–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Kosovo relations
- Category:Kyrgyzstan–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Kyrgyzstan relations
- Category:Lebanon–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Lebanon relations
- Category:Libya–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Libya relations
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- Category:Malaysia–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Malaysia relations
- Category:Maldives–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Maldives relations
- Category:Mali–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Mali relations
- Category:Mauritania–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Mauritania relations
- Category:Mauritius–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Mauritius relations
- Category:Mexico–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Mexico relations
- Category:Micronesia–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Micronesia relations
- Category:Moldova–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Moldova relations
- Category:Monaco–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Monaco relations
- Category:Mongolia–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Mongolia relations
- Category:Montenegro–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Montenegro relations
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- Category:Namibia–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Namibia relations
- Category:Nepal–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Nepal relations
- Category:New Zealand–European Union relations to Category:European Union–New Zealand relations
- Category:Nicaragua–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Nicaragua relations
- Category:Niue–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Niue relations
- Category:North Korea–European Union relations to Category:European Union–North Korea relations
- Category:North Macedonia–European Union relations to Category:European Union–North Macedonia relations
- Category:Norway–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Norway relations
- Category:Pakistan–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Pakistan relations
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- Category:Russia–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Russia relations
- Category:Samoa–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Samoa relations
- Category:San Marino–European Union relations to Category:European Union–San Marino relations
- Category:São Tomé and Príncipe–European Union relations to Category:European Union–São Tomé and Príncipe relations
- Category:Saudi Arabia–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Saudi Arabia relations
- Category:Serbia–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Serbia relations
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- Category:Sierra Leone–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Sierra Leone relations
- Category:Singapore–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Singapore relations
- Category:Somalia–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Somalia relations
- Category:South Africa–European Union relations to Category:European Union–South Africa relations
- Category:South Korea–European Union relations to Category:European Union–South Korea relations
- Category:Sri Lanka–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Sri Lanka relations
- Category:Switzerland–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Switzerland relations
- Category:Syria–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Syria relations
- Category:Taiwan–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Taiwan relations
- Category:Tanzania–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Tanzania relations
- Category:Tonga–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Tonga relations
- Category:Turkey–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Turkey relations
- Category:Turkmenistan–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Turkmenistan relations
- Category:Uganda–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Uganda relations
- Category:Ukraine–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Ukraine relations
- Category:Uzbekistan–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Uzbekistan relations
- Category:Venezuela–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Venezuela relations
- Category:Vietnam–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Vietnam relations
- Category:Yemen–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Yemen relations
- Category:Zambia–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Zambia relations
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  Commnet All European Union cats nominated are under the false impression that the EU is a country and that standard naming conventions apply. They don't. The EU is a multilateral organization. All categories nominated are under the proper naming convention. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:18, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Query @WikiCleanerMan: is this an objection to 'all of the above', then? - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:09, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  
  No, they are not. In the case of some, many are C2D (such as the USA case). So shouldn't have a consistency with order? Because a category and some articles start with EU: European Union–Sudan relations, European Union–Turkey relations, and Category:European Union–Rwanda relations. Web-julio (talk) 23:11, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Yes. I object. There needs to be wider consensus and there is no consensus as in case in point from 2014 from the US article talk page. Country-EU relations title format as been the way for a long time and it isn't going to change without a wider discussion for the articles. Nominator is going backwards by starting wit categorizes. Alphabetical order is for countries. EU is not a country. African Union-European Union is fine because those are two organizations not countries that have relations. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:29, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  @WikiCleanerMan So should I start CFD now or someone else? Web-julio (talk) 00:55, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  @Web-julio you can if you want, but I don't think that it's going to be successful. I don't think that the rename is a good idea because having the country first is more helpful for navigation. As I've mentioned on your talk page, I think you need to slow down and learn more about categorization norms before making mass changes. ^SMason_Garrison 02:03, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  So are we gonna keep Rwanda? There's nothing to learn here as no consensus or policy was shown regarding this inconsistency. Web-julio (talk) 02:06, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Ok, well, if you think you know everything about categories fine. But I already pointed out that demanding a policy/consensus be shown is not a good way to learn about categorization. ^SMason_Garrison 02:15, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  There is consistency. As in they already existed already long before you started editing Wikipedia. The Rwanda category has to be changed to it's proper name setting. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:56, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  
  None of these are countries either: Category:African Union–European Union relations. Web-julio (talk) 23:13, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  @Web-julio: you can move the discussion to CFD if you want to, in that case please re-tag the category pages. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:01, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  @Marcocapelle I think that since a RM is going on, we could wait. I guess that's why these weren't removed from here, right? Web-julio (talk) 18:44, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Moved to full discussion

Category:Ascaridida to Category:Ascaridomorpha – C2D: The World Register of Marine Species (the authority on all marine taxa) accepts this taxa as infraorder Ascaridomorpha, with Ascaridida as an unaccepted synonym. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 09:39, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose speedy The main article was only recently renamed and without discussion, thus C2D doesn't apply. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 13:47, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Premeditated Chaos: are you going to take this to full discussion? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:29, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, didn't watchlist the page and didn't see the response. Yes, I'll do a full discussion. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 22:18, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category was moved to full discussion by nominator. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 13:57, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Irish Arctic explorers to Category:Irish explorers of the Arctic – C2C: norm is FOOian explorers of the Arctic ^SMason_Garrison 12:37, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose speedy I don't see any category that follows that norm. Regards, Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 05:39, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - the parent category is Category:Explorers of the Arctic. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 07:43, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support speedy per Category:British explorers of Antarctica and Category:Norwegian explorers of Antarctica. Gedrose (talk) 07:29, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Armbrust do you still oppose? ^SMason_Garrison 17:10, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fwiw, I can understand that it is opposed for speedy. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:16, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it would have been nice for them to confirm that their concerns weren't addressed by the other comments. I've moved it to full. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 23#Category:Irish Arctic explorers ^SMason_Garrison 02:08, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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