Talk:Motion picture content rating system
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Cambodia rating system
[edit]As far as Cambodia’s film rating is concerned, should I post this reference or it has to be on countries film ratings official website?
Example:
- G General viewing
- NC15 NO CHILDREN UNDER 15 YEARS.
- R18 ADULTS ONLY[1]
FireDragonValo (talk) 17:29, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- Or on this website link: https://cambodiacounsel.com/media-content/ FireDragonValo (talk) 17:31, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
Done Betty Logan (talk) 23:11, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
Petition to add a new color to the comparison table
[edit]We should add a separate color for "restricted to licensed premises/venues", given how many countries (Argentina, Bulgaria, Chile, Kazakhstan, etc.) provide ratings for limited exhibition. SPEEDYBEAVER (talk) 18:13, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- It's not possible. We are limited to five color groups: H:Colorblind. It would add no great benefit, because licensed premises are just another form of prohibitve category. Betty Logan (talk) 12:38, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
- No way, the spanish versión of this article use more colours 46.26.104.23 (talk) 21:17, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
High resolution of current Canadian Home Video System icons (jpg format and needs to be converted)
[edit]I did find a high resolution version of the current Canadian Home Video System icons. However, it is in jpg format and I tried to convert it to SVG but it ended up in terrible results. Here’s the archive link to the jpg version: https://web.archive.org/web/20160414170741im_/http://www.mpa-canada.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/mpa_canada_ratings_121130_hi-res-01.jpg. If anyone can convert it to SVG perfectly and/or to find it the best possible, let me know. Also, here’s the link to it also: https://www.customaniacs.org/forum/CM_show_preview.php?attachmentid=883497 Thanks. FireDragonValo (talk) 19:01, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Updated: I already converted to SVG and it’s now on pages. Thank you. FireDragonValo (talk) 15:42, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
New Brazilian ratings to comparison table.
[edit]Is it possible to add new Brazilian ratings (AL, A10, A12, A14, A16, A18) to comparison table? FireDragonValo (talk) 02:58, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- Is there a source for these new ratings? We shouldn't be adding anything to the table until the ratings are sourced in the summaries. Betty Logan (talk) 17:03, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- Yes. I have the proof or source and here’s the link for that: https://www.gov.br/mj/pt-br/assuntos/seus-direitos/classificacao-1/simbolos-de-autoclassificacao FireDragonValo (talk) 22:30, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- So how does "self-classification" work then? Who does the classifying, and what are the conditions? Betty Logan (talk) 23:41, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- This document states that self-rating is for television shows, while cinema and home video must apply for a rating. Has this changed? Are there any examples of self-rated movies? Betty Logan (talk) 23:56, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- I have removed the self-rated symbols because the classification guide states they are not used for cinema/home video (page 38). I suggest adding them to the television ratings page though. Betty Logan (talk) 22:57, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- Good to know. Thanks. I’ll let you know if there’s more proof and sources if you want. FireDragonValo (talk) 16:49, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- I have removed the self-rated symbols because the classification guide states they are not used for cinema/home video (page 38). I suggest adding them to the television ratings page though. Betty Logan (talk) 22:57, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yes. I have the proof or source and here’s the link for that: https://www.gov.br/mj/pt-br/assuntos/seus-direitos/classificacao-1/simbolos-de-autoclassificacao FireDragonValo (talk) 22:30, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
Italian ratings
[edit]@User:Betty Logan Why did you revert my edit on the Italian ratings in the table? The current version makes no sense, the ratings VM14 and VM18 are repeated twice. Scia Della Cometa (talk) 22:03, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- VM14 and VM18 are not repeated twice. According to the summary they have two age components. For example, 14A is prohibited for under-12s, and restrictive for under-14s. If this is correct then the representation is consistent with the key above the table, and with all the other ratings in the table that have two age components, such as Finland and Norway. If English is your second-language perhaps you have misunderstood the table guide? Betty Logan (talk) 22:19, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
Ruler lines
[edit]- I appreciate that there was no objection in principle, as I added rulers not on an aesthetic whim but due to an accessibility issue personally experienced by me. I don't have a disability, but this is hardly your typical table. The idea was to have a ruler every ~20 rows (not countries), evenly spaced (with height-padded and wrapped-text rows counting for two).
- While I don't see harm in the ruler being there, I don't object to @Betty Logan:'s point about Canada and Quebec. My line placement was not politically motivated. Incidentally, the line might not have gone there if Canada and Quebec (along with a few others) weren't padded by height styling (IMHO unnecessarily).
- I would suggest that partially objecting editors shift the ruler(s) they object to instead of reverting everything (WP:REVONLY). I believe this would take less of everyone's time than discussing each line separately and delegating all changes to me. I'm not attached to exactly 20 rows spacing, but going much wider would defeat the purpose. Gamapamani (talk) 04:21, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
BMBSX edits
[edit]@BMBSX: Will you please stop adding unsourced content to the article, or adding sourced content to the article and putting the source in the edit summary. That is not how Wikipedia works. This edit to South Korea may well be true—I couldn't really say—but you have provided no source to back it up. All content added to Wikipedia should be accompanied by an in-line citation. Betty Logan (talk) 01:35, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Slovakian rating system added content descriptors and removal of ratings -7, 7+, 12+ and 15+
[edit]On January 1, 2024, there are added content descriptor icons along with the removal of ratings: -7, 7+, 12+ and 15+. Is it okay if I removed the latter of the ratings since it’s no longer useable? Here’s the proof in the link: https://www.jso.sk/. Thanks. FireDragonValo (talk) 18:05, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Where does it say the educational ratings have been removed? All that link seems to confirm is the addition of the descriptor icons for the general ratings. Betty Logan (talk) 23:21, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Here’s the link to that document about rating changes. Just keep in mind that the language for this document is in Slovak. https://www.jso.sk/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Novy-jednotny-system-oznacovania-JSO-pre-AV-diela-a-programy.pdf FireDragonValo (talk) 00:28, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ok thanks, that's fairly emphatic. Feel free to remove the ratings. If you have problems with the table code let me know and I will sort it out. Betty Logan (talk) 02:49, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- thank you. FireDragonValo (talk) 07:01, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ok thanks, that's fairly emphatic. Feel free to remove the ratings. If you have problems with the table code let me know and I will sort it out. Betty Logan (talk) 02:49, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- Here’s the link to that document about rating changes. Just keep in mind that the language for this document is in Slovak. https://www.jso.sk/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Novy-jednotny-system-oznacovania-JSO-pre-AV-diela-a-programy.pdf FireDragonValo (talk) 00:28, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
Indian film certification ratings UA (UA 7+, UA 13 + and UA 16 +)
[edit]The Central Board of Film Certification in India recently changed the Cinematography Act that including the subdivision the UA rating to three categories: UA 7+, UA 13 + and UA 16 +. Here’s the links as proof: https://www.cbfcindia.gov.in/cbfcAdmin/faq.php; https://prsindia.org/files/bills_acts/acts_parliament/2023/Cinematograph_(Amendment)_Act,_2023.pdf. Thank you.FireDragonValo (talk) 15:30, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
Hybrid restricted ratings
[edit]instead of repeating twice, one red and one black column, for the same rating I propose adding a new category:Hybrid restriction, this applies to ratings that ban certain under-ages but allow at certain age with accompainament, an example would be the 18A rating in some Canadian provinces that under 14s can't view It all but 14-17 can with adult accompainament and other one is the 7-9PG of South African FPB which allows Parents decide for kids between that ages to let them see that movie but not more under, this new category would be represented with the colour maroon as it is an intermediate between red and black. 47.61.227.116 (talk) 15:41, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- The problem is that you still need a visual distinction between the two age components, so you still need two colors. An extra color doesn't help to do that. Betty Logan (talk) 04:45, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- Literally I proposed a color for this new category which is distinguisable enough from the others, and is perfectly viable because in the Spanish and Euskera versions of this page they use more colours than the english-one (blue, green, orange, maroon etc...), what you said makes no sense 87.125.207.200 (talk) 09:14, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- What you are saying makes no sense. The hybrid categories have two components: a prohibitive component and a restrictive component. If you have just one color then you lose that distinction between the two age components, which is literally the whole point of having the table in the first place. If you look at the Spanish article they have a single color starting at 18 for 18A. There is noting clear about that visual depiction that lets readers know there is a prohibitive component at 14A. In any case, on the English Wikipedia accessibility guidelines prohibit blue/purple in the same table, and also red/brown/green. Of those five colors there are only two color groups. Betty Logan (talk) 12:03, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- in the Euskara they use Maroon for fully restricted ratings, You don't understand what I proposed: because there are ratings with a mix of prohibitive and restrictive components (7-9PG,18A etc...) I want a new category for them to differentiate of the other ones, this would use Maroon which is another color apart from red and black that can be form mixing the former 2, it isn't so hard to understand, also I don't know why the eng Wikipedia have those weird guidelines but as I see them as useless, if you have another color I would hear your propositions 87.125.207.200 (talk) 13:18, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- I understand perfectly what you are suggesting. What I am saying is that your suggestion of turning two colors into one color fails to capture all of the information of a 2-color system. Hybrid categories utilize two colors because there are two age components. That cannot be represented by just one color. If you take the Brazilian "18" rating in the Euskara table for example, the visual depiction does not tell you that there is a prohibitive age restriction that applies from the age of 16. If a rating has two age components then it needs to be represented by two colors. The Euskara table is inferior to this one because it does not represent all of the information. Betty Logan (talk) 18:04, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Not if we specified what that colour means like the others example:Yellow means Advisory:parental guidance suggested, I proposed the following x new colour means Hybrid restricted:fully restricted for to young under-age but partially restricted for the older enough ones
- I understand perfectly what you are suggesting. What I am saying is that your suggestion of turning two colors into one color fails to capture all of the information of a 2-color system. Hybrid categories utilize two colors because there are two age components. That cannot be represented by just one color. If you take the Brazilian "18" rating in the Euskara table for example, the visual depiction does not tell you that there is a prohibitive age restriction that applies from the age of 16. If a rating has two age components then it needs to be represented by two colors. The Euskara table is inferior to this one because it does not represent all of the information. Betty Logan (talk) 18:04, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- in the Euskara they use Maroon for fully restricted ratings, You don't understand what I proposed: because there are ratings with a mix of prohibitive and restrictive components (7-9PG,18A etc...) I want a new category for them to differentiate of the other ones, this would use Maroon which is another color apart from red and black that can be form mixing the former 2, it isn't so hard to understand, also I don't know why the eng Wikipedia have those weird guidelines but as I see them as useless, if you have another color I would hear your propositions 87.125.207.200 (talk) 13:18, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- What you are saying makes no sense. The hybrid categories have two components: a prohibitive component and a restrictive component. If you have just one color then you lose that distinction between the two age components, which is literally the whole point of having the table in the first place. If you look at the Spanish article they have a single color starting at 18 for 18A. There is noting clear about that visual depiction that lets readers know there is a prohibitive component at 14A. In any case, on the English Wikipedia accessibility guidelines prohibit blue/purple in the same table, and also red/brown/green. Of those five colors there are only two color groups. Betty Logan (talk) 12:03, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- Literally I proposed a color for this new category which is distinguisable enough from the others, and is perfectly viable because in the Spanish and Euskera versions of this page they use more colours than the english-one (blue, green, orange, maroon etc...), what you said makes no sense 87.125.207.200 (talk) 09:14, 24 October 2024 (UTC)