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GustavoCza Media outlets began reporting (WP:Circular) that Coldplay sold 100 million albums, rather than 100 million records, following an edit you made, which cited a YouTube video as the primary source. However, Coldplay's total album certifications in the U.S. amount to 15.5 million, and around 15 million in the UK. Given that the U.S. and UK together make up 40% of the global music market, these figures suggest that Coldplay's actual worldwide album sales fall significantly short of the 100 million albums claimed by their record labels for promotional purposes.TheWikiholic (talk) 19:19, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"The BRIT Awards 2021 with Mastercard today announce that Coldplay, one of the world's biggest bands with over 100 million album sales worldwide to date, will be opening this year's show on 11th May". – British Phonographic Industry on 4 May 2021, a month before I made that specific edit. Unless it can be proven that they traveled in time this is just a conspiracy theory from you. As for their album sales in the United States, Billboard reported 18.2 million pure sales nine years ago, so claiming they only have 15.5 million is ridiculous. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 19:47, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
BPI doesn't track the record sales outside of UK, and both BPI and Variety reporting the same thing on the same day (on May 5, 2021) doesn't look like a coincidence, but it is obvious that they are reporting what the record label released. Besides that it's common among media to report record sales as album sales. So no need to add any footnotes when we have sources like BBC and EW explicitly reporting record sales instead of album sales a few days prior and after to this. TheWikiholic (talk) 20:25, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are multiple articles from the BBC saying 100 million albums instead of records:
Pollstar, Rolling Stone and The Telegraph also have made the same claim, do you genuinely believe my little edit was so influential? That none of these media outlets have fact checked anything? You are just in denial at this point.
OK, if neither of you will start the discussion, I will. I agree with Rodericksilly's version – from my experience, keeping/using connectives (including words like "also") is the sort of thing that can hold articles like these back from reaching FA status, and changing things like Coldplay's rise to fame coincided with "a decade of artistic snark and cynicism: hipsterism, the peak of pop punk, and a new rebirth of rockism" to Coldplay's rise to fame coincided with a decade marked by "artistic snark and cynicism: hipsterism, the peak of pop punk" and the new rebirth of rockism unnecessarily changes the context; so no, none of these editorialisations are needed. Also, while it takes two to edit war (and I'm not excusing Rodericksilly's part in this), GustavoCza, you're involved in far too many of these across pages related to/involving this band. 4TheWynne(talk•contribs)09:57, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would very much tend to agree that the editorializing language on the page isn't productive. While it doesn't justify the edit-warring behavior, the plain version without connectives is better in my opinion – notably, unwarranted use of connectives is pointed out as an example of WP:SYNTH, and is to be avoided if the inferences aren't explicitly supported by the sources (see also MOS:EDITORIAL). Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 11:47, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@GustavoCza @Y2kcrazyjoker4 Please, try to discuss the wording on the talk page instead of edit-warring against each other. GustavoCza, you've repeated the pattern of edit-warring barely hours after full protection expired, and accusations like Y'all might not care since you hate Coldplay but I do in edit summaries are not productive at all. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 11:56, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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