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Is this article misnamed? "Marx brothers" appears to be a bastardized half-translation of the German "Marxbruder." Most English-language sources (that are not Wikipedia clones), including those cited in the article, refer to this group as "The Brotherhood of St. Mark."
- you are right, it may be better to move the page. dab (ᛏ) 07:36, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
- However, "Marx brothers" seems like a fair enough translation of "Marxbrüder", if you choose not to translate "Marx", which as a spelling for "Mark's" is just as uncommon in German as in English. dab (ᛏ) 15:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
There used to be an captain of st. mark in the Venice military does that have an connection ?
Are the Marxbruder still in existence? If not, is there any record of when the Brotherhood disbanded?
- no; they somehow faded out in the early 17th century. dab (𒁳) 07:37, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
- St. Marcus was/is the cities-saint of Venice.--139.30.128.27 (talk) 16:24, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
about the Lux/Lucas-Brothers
[edit]This is my transcript, taken from: Wassmannsdorff, Karl: Sechs Fechtschulen: (d.i. Schau- und Preisfechten) der Marxbrüder und Federfechter aus den Jahren 1573-1614 […]. Heidelberg 1870.
nach 1576 [über die Lucasbrüder] [S.8/ Fascikel 27 der Aktenstücke über die Marxbrüder im Archiv der Stadt Frankfurt a. M.] Ein Lucas Bruder ist ein M[eiste]r. aus denen Marc[us] oder Veyths fechtern, so sich vndernimet gegen alle vnd jede die Schuhl zu behaupten; würdt Er aber bluthrüstig gemachet, so ist Er ab, vnd die übrige theylen das von denen Zuschauwern erlöszete geldt. [...]
My translation:
after 1576 [page 8/ fascicle 27 from the Acta about the Marxbrüder at the archive of the city of Frankfurt am Main] A Lucas bruder[brother] is a M[aste]r. coming form the Marc[us] or the Vitus-fencers[/fighters], who dares[/has taken upon himself] to prevail against everybody and any [existing/teaching] School; in case He is brought to bleed [or: is beeing severely injured during a fight], so He is off, and the others[/remaining parties/schools] shall divide the wagered money [the wage/ le gage de bataille/ die Wette] which has been collected from the spectators, among them. [...]
I hope my `Jerry´-english is not too bad ;)--139.30.128.27 (talk) 16:21, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
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Warlike Saint Mark
[edit]How is Mark the Evangelist "the Holy and warlike heavenly prince Saint Mark"? --Error (talk) 18:29, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
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