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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 26 August 2022
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Please remove the word "other" in the opening clause of the article: A gas chamber is an apparatus for killing humans or other animals with gas
While it is technically correct, it is unnecessary and gives a slightly dehumanizing tone to this article on a sensitive topic. Thank you for your consideration. 2600:8802:5500:490:453D:3A7B:BB24:A9B (talk) 21:55, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
Not done: I don't agree the tone is dehumanizing. It's a very minor point in any case. Madeline (part of me) 21:53, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
- I agree that "other" needs to be removed. I disagree that it's technically correct. Humans are not "animals" at all. As much as I don't like to discuss tone for something like this, it does certainly add a dehumanizing element. I can't imagine any reason to keep this language. Sarstan (talk) 05:15, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
- What do you mean by animal if it excludes humans. That's like saying we aren't Eukaryotes. Human Hairy Rosette (talk) 10:07, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
- I agree that "other" needs to be removed. I disagree that it's technically correct. Humans are not "animals" at all. As much as I don't like to discuss tone for something like this, it does certainly add a dehumanizing element. I can't imagine any reason to keep this language. Sarstan (talk) 05:15, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the
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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 December 2023
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Change "Germany" to "Nazi Germany" 2A02:1210:68DB:1000:F502:5D8:A6EC:F600 (talk) 21:33, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
Not done: no reason given for the proposed change. M.Bitton (talk) 23:29, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
Inert gas inhalation
[edit]I don't know how relevant that section is to this article. The nitrogen execution was carried out through a mask and not through a gas chamber. It may have some relevance because a gas chamber is a possible way to carry it out, but it's not the way it's done. At least it should be specified that Kenneth Smith's execution was not done in a gas chamber.--SRuizR 00:28, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Edit Request: "Invasion of Russia" to "Invasion of the Soviet Union"
[edit]It is well known that the Germans invaded the USSR beyond just the Russian SFSR. The sentence in question is regarding the use of gas vans during Barbarossa. Gas vans were used by the four main Einsatzgruppen, and the following source names them as present in Riga. [1]https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/gas-vans
I believe this small but significant change is important for historical accuracy. 2001:569:5186:6800:4C75:CE9F:4AF1:3F33 (talk) 00:01, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
Done Thanks for that, I agree it should say Soviet Union. AusLondonder (talk) 01:51, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request: Gas chambers used in animal slaughter
[edit]Gas chambers are in widespread use today as part of the slaughtering process of farmed animals. That information seems to be missing and is relevant. Can someone review and add this suggested addition?
Today, gas chambers are still used at scale in the slaughter process of pigs and chickens. This approach allows small groups to be gassed instead of individually as is the case with other stunning methods. The high concentration CO2 gas typically used is highly aversive and painful however[A], and still takes at least 30-60 seconds to stun pigs in test conditions[B][C]. In 2022 in England and Wales, 88% of pigs killed in a slaughterhouse were stunned with this high conetration CO2 method[D]. Chickens, both broiler and spent egg laying hens, are also frequently stunned in slaughterhouse gas chambers, though with a lower CO2 mixure.
In 2022 in England and Wales, 88% of pigs and over 80% of chickens killed in a slaughterhouse were stunned in gas chambers [D].
[A] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S175173112030166X#bb0040
[B] https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fvets.2016.00038/full
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Pedro_Rodriguez/publication/
[C] 230701076_Assessment_of_unconsciousness_during_carbon_dioxide_stunning_in_pigs/links/0fcfd503329423ffc1000000.pdf
[D] https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/62f0eec1d3bf7f75b305fbae/Results-of-the-2022-FSA-Slaughter-Sector-Survey-in-England-and-Wales.pdf Sklabb (talk) 19:27, 3 April 2024 (UTC)