User talk:TakuyaMurata/old talk until feb 21 03

Is "Takuya" your surname or your given name?

I looked at your article on the "Jyokyu incident". I think that, in Wikipedia, we would call it the "Jokyu incident". Please include the kanji with furigana. To get kanji on Wikipedia, you will need to use special HTML codes.

Please also tell us more about this incident, if you can.

--User:Juuitchan

Thanks. I am still reading that (I am not sure yet). I will add more to Jokyu incident. And do you really mean furigana not romaji? Taku

I mean furigana, like you see in manga. But romaji are also good. And remember, it's "ta", "chi", "tsu" (not "tu"), "te", "to".--User:Juuitchan

All right. I will put furigana or romaji. (If I remember, that is the problem.)

I found out this: The Unicode for ō is 333 (decimal). The Unicode for ū is 363 (decimal).

I tried to fix what you wrote about Yoshinoya. Please check it. --User:Juuitchan

Takkun, I think I might help with your romaji ordering of the Aozora Bunko list. But why not just keep them in kana order? --User:Juuitchan

Hi Taku, thanks for the great work e.g. on kamikaze. ...but please be careful, don't move pages to quickly. For instance, not everyone would agree with your move of Le Bebete Show, and in particular not me. The real title is with the accents, and in several cases (like the less obvious Coup d'état, see Talk:Coup d'état) the choice to keep the accents has been made on purpose. Also, if you leave a justification please leave it on the article's talk page, don't hide it in a user's talk page (I haven't found your justification in User_talk:Ericd - gave up after a few seconds.) --FvdP 20:51 Jan 2, 2003 (UTC)

Sure, I was careless. I will do some research about the policy of accents. Thanks for correcting me Taku 21:10 Jan 2, 2003 (UTC)

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Thanks for the hint about references on Jansenism. I thought I read someplace that references should go on the article talk page. Maybe I made it up. :)

Tbarron

Hello there TakuyaMurata, welcome to the 'pedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you need pointers on how we title pages visit Wikipedia:Naming conventions or how to format them visit our manual of style. If you have any other questions about the project then check out Wikipedia:Help or add a question to the Village pump. BTW, nice work on Katakana. Cheers! --maveric149

Nice to meet you. Please let me know if I make a mistake. Taku

Hi, I have a question for you: Did you take out Rabbi Soloveitchik's middle name "Ber" from the link title? It's part of his full name. In fact he was commonly known as "JB" to many people. I don't get it. Are you familiar with this rabbi at all? User:IZAK

I think I didn't,
Yet I may have made a mistake,
Anyhow I have no idea about rabbi

Therefore, just fix it.

Taku 20:03 Jan 3, 2003 (UTC)

My redirecting of the article titled "chain of responsibility pattern" to the one titled "chain-of-responsibility pattern" was a matter of grammar. The traditional use of hyphens is very useful, and whoever doubts that should consider the difference in meaning between a headline that says

New Age-Discrimination Rules Proposed

and one that says

New-Age Discrimination Rules Proposed.

But if you're writing an article on Wikipedia about a particular software design pattern you should begin by saying that it is a software design pattern. It is absurd to assume a reader of Wikipedia knows that there is such a thing as a software design pattern and launch straight in to a discussion of the differences between one software design pattern and another. You need to set some context right at the beginning. -- Mike Hardy

Yes. I totally agree with you. But gentelly remember articles in Wikipedia are in progress. I know many articles I wrote are incomplete, sometimes wrong. Please just fix them. Please please don't assume I am a perpetrator for computer programming related articles. I am not, but we all are.

Taku 03:41 Jan 4, 2003 (UTC)

What are you doing with Singleton pattern et al? This looks like data dumping. Please do not data dump and expect other people to clean up the mess. --mav

I think first I have to put data then wikify it. I am expecting me to do in the future. Taku 20:44 Jan 3, 2003 (UTC)

But in the interim these articles are in a horrid state. Why not just work on one at at time and present something that is great in the end? This is also an encyclopedia and much of the material inserted doesn't look encyclopedic. Some of it is also CamelCased which is very odd. Are you copying another Wiki's pages? --mav

Again. Could you at least un-CamelCase the articles and do some basic formatting, write in complete sentences and give a definition of what each term is? You state above to tell you when you are making a mistake and I'm here now telling you that you are. Please put some time and effort in each of your entries before posting it on Wikipedia. If you want you can use Meta-Wikipedia as your work-space. This is a serious encyclopedia and having articles in such bad shape isn't acceptable even for relatively short periods. --mav

Maybe I thought it is not so big deal because those article will be changed in the future (not only by me but also by the entire community). So do you think if un-CamelCase with vital definition is done, the data dump is acceptable? I believe it is not a good idea that only I make the other source look an encyclopedia article then post it to Wikipedia. Anyway I will quickly un-CamelCase and delete some parts at first quickly. See and tell me about my job later. --Taku 21:22 Jan 3, 2003 (UTC)

Hi Taku... do you know what the copyright status of these pattern pages is? As far as I can tell, WikiWikiWeb doesn't have a copyright clause published, which means that the status is ambiguous and dangerous. Regardless in my opinion this information (all these pattern articles) is far too specialized to belong in wikipedia without a lot of contextual articles explaining them. Graft

First about I read somewhere I can copy the content in the http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WelcomeVisitors. I will show it later (I am looking for now). I mean even though the WikiWikiWeb doesn't explicitly say about the copyright, yet the all contributions to it are considered public or something. It can be interpreted public domain. Second, about the content. Yes, the quality is a quite bad as encyclopedia article but it can be a good stub to improve. Taku 22:01 Jan 3, 2003 (UTC)

I found this page: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiCopyRights. Sounds like my conduct is a copyright violation. But I am so unsure. If anyone got a better idea, let me know. I will appreciate it. Taku 22:31 Jan 3, 2003 (UTC)

Yep it looks like it. You can use the information contained in the text but not the text itself. Note:

Author(s) retain copyright
Others can use and reference but not copy

and

Unsigned work belongs to the repository operators.
Signed works are considered the property of the author(s) and subject to fair use.

Fair use does not allow for wholesale verbatim copying. No biggie - all that it means is that we will have to remove the text. --mav

Yeah as I thought. So I will just delete the text I copied. Please don't delete pages I made but leave them as stub. Maybe I can copy from other wiki sites. -- Taku 03:15 Jan 4, 2003 (UTC)

Oh, how about unsigned works but mime? Do I not have the ownership of them? Taku 03:34 Jan 4, 2003 (UTC)

If you wrote it it is yours unless you agreed to some type of special condition by saving your unsigned work on the other wiki. --mav

Hi Taku
I noticed your talk note on the conservation article. Thought of dropping you a word about it since, you cared about it, and I wrote most of the initial article. I appreciated the time you spent on it. Other people here apparently care about conservation. I had hopes they would complete it, and correct me; but they didnot :-( I am glad you did.
I don't write well, but can't help writing anyway :-))) Still, I feel unhappy when some people go through some stuff I write, correct only one comma, and go away only leaving the comment the article needs LOTS of copyediting. Each time I feel sorry such a poorly-written article stands there and give up writing for a while. Bah. If you care about the subject, I will feel happy if you check biodiversity. Horribly long and not-english written one. My play-ground for the years to come;-) Welcome anyway.
NB : we have several japanese-speaking (living in Japan) on the french wikipedia. You may check http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aoineko. He will father a little japanese very soon. user:anthere

Hello. I think it is not a problem at all that you write a lot if you think you do poor. The strength of Wikipedia is there is no article that has a certain author who is reponsible for it. If your or my writing is poor, someone else may fix it. See the talk on the conservation artcile about my question about the article. I hope you will keep enjoying writing. -- Taku 00:08 Jan 6, 2003 (UTC)

Regarding Aozora Bunko:

First, subpages are no longer supported by the new wiki software, this was a deliberate design decision. It therefore makes no sense to use the subpage syntax. Instead you should try to find encyclopedia-style titles, e.g. "Aozora Bunko: A".

Second, even if you were to use subpage-style titles, you wouldn't do so by simply typing [[/A]], this creates a new page in the global namespace called "/A". --Eloquence

Thank for input. I will fix it. Taku 16:50 Jan 5, 2003 (UTC)

The sunflower picture you added is better. No offense taken. :-) KQ

Hi there Taku. I've read your question on Wikipedia:WikiProject Countries. I'd like to point out that such questions are best asked at that page's talk page. I've moved and replied to it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries. Thanks. -Scipius 18:02 Jan 18, 2003 (UTC)

Hi Taku. I've answered an old question of yours on Wikipedia:Village pump DanKeshet 19:29 Jan 19, 2003 (UTC)

Hi - I've got a bit of a query at Talk:Basho Matsuo. You moved it from Matsuo Basho, which I'm pretty sure is the most common name order when he is referred to in the English language, and I think that's what we should go with when naming articles here (see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (anglicization), which says to name things as they are most commonly named in English). --Camembert

Hi Taku. I don't suppose you know anything about Jun Tsuji, one of the authors of texts that are in the Aozora Bunko project. I started the article hoping someone might eventually add to it -- I'd just seen a request for information in Freedom newspaper. If you can add anything to that article, it would be much appreciated :) -- Sam

Hi Taku, I'm glad you are taking an interest in the Wikipedia:Manual of Style, but as to the sentence I removed, commas are not optional for introductory clauses, nor for lists, nor for parenthetical expressions. Commas are sometimes optional when they are used to insert a pause, to allow the reader a moment to think. The last comma in that sentence is an example of an optional comma. Most commas are required, or at least expected. Some writers put in too many, but that is not as bad as putting in too few. The main idea, though, is that the Manual of Style is not the place to go into general grammatical questions, but only a place to list the conventions to be followed in Wikipedia articles. If you want to discuss commas further, I have just added some material to comma (punctuation). Best regards, Ortolan88 19:17 Jan 25, 2003 (UTC)

Oh, I am sorry. I didn't mean to talk about comman generally but only in that case. I totally agree that Manual of Style should not mention about grammar stuff, because it is not clear and may vary in British English or American English. I just wanted to only mean you can say either "In quantom physics, bahabaha" or "In quantom physics bahabaha". What do you think? Is it still grammar stuff? -- Taku 19:28 Jan 25, 2003 (UTC)

Your Japanese name for Foujita only shows up as blank boxes. I removed it... DW

I restored those Japanese characters. They look fine with the right font installed, tested Mac and Windows. Unicode has some possible font sources. --Nate 08:49 Jan 12, 2003 (UTC)

Hello Murata-san!

I'm sorry I can't e-mail you directly. Are you by any means related to the law professor Harumi Murata (a friend of my father)?

You just wrote in Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style:

If someone sees Basho Matsuo (芭蕉松尾) he/she probably thinks 芭蕉 is Basho.

You probably meant

If someone sees Basho Matsuo (松尾芭蕉) he/she probably thinks 松尾 is Basho.

Or else I'm really confused now. Well, a pine and a banana are at least both trees. ;-)

Sebastian 17:45 Jan 25, 2003 (UTC)

The truth is 芭蕉 is Basho. Right, it's so confusing. That's why finally I came up with that proposal I posted in Manual of Style. Apparently we need a better solution (not arbitrary digits). -- Taku 20:05 Jan 25, 2003 (UTC)

Aha found you, Takuya Murata! I see you still call yourself a hacker and you don't like documenting software. :-) Well, nevertheless, I think you were doing a great job on Wikitech-mailinglist. Kind regards / keep up the good work, :-) Pieter Suurmond 16:28 Feb 2, 2003 (UTC)

I want to talk to you. come to irc.freenode.net and /msg skimpIzu in the next few hours.user_talk:hfastedge 21:42 Feb 20, 2003 (UTC)

Talk about what? Actually I am not used to irc chat so can you just tell me what you want to say? -- Taku 21:44 Feb 20, 2003 (UTC)

What i wish to discuss cannot be done via such latent means as a wiki. do u prefer any other live chat? if not, its not a huge deal, and we can forget it.

Oh, I see. I was just wondering what you want to talk like from just casual talks to software developement or about articles I edited. Please just tell me what do you want to discuss. It is not big deal to me to install IRC software if I am interested in the topic you like to talk about. -- Taku 22:03 Feb 20, 2003 (UTC)

I want to discuss object subject verb examples between japanese and english live. you'll notice that we edited the same page recently Hfastedge 22:05 Feb 20, 2003 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Then why don't we use their talk pages?

Hi, I've just been tidying a few little bits on the Cyber Law article and there's a few lines that don't make sense to me. I think from looking at the Older Versions that you are the author so I just wondered whether you could explain it to me. These are from the first two lines of the article;

..... It can be seen one of copyright protection ways.

For those years, the technologies play a leading role in the information society.....

They just don't seem very clear to me, perhaps I'm just missing the point. -- Thanks Ams80 13:06 Feb 21, 2003 (UTC)

As you probably see, those articles are by no means complete. I really needed more research. If you think some parts don't make sense, just delete them. I am not confident at all. Anyway, I will look at it too and hopefully I can fix it. -- Taku 17:00 Feb 21, 2003 (UTC)

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