I know it’s discouraged to go to ANI, but I’m unsure of where to take a conflict with a user. I don’t think their edits are considered vandalism by Wikipedia standards/warrant a full rollback but I do think they are disruptive and might need a WP:CIR block. I (and many others) have addressed this in both user and article talk pages, but they do not seem to understand the issues raised.
Things this editor has done include repeatedly not citing sources, repeatedly citing blogs, edit warring/ownership, and has partially deleted talk page discussion in a manner that changes what the original post means (instead of fully blanking). It also appears this editor may not have a good grasp of English due to the mispellings and grammar issues they have introduced.
I’ve lurked for a lot of my WP career and feel like I have a good grasp of policy, but I’m not sure where to go with this. Thanks, Sarsenet (talk) 01:45, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Making some assumptions based on your edit history on who you might be referring to, and if I'm looking at the correct user, they've already been blocked once, and appear to still have a problem differentiating between what their opinion of what WP is, versus what it really is, is a continuing problem, and raising it over at ANI doesn't seem out of line given this extensive warning (and responses) by the user on their talk page. TiggerJay(talk)03:09, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're looking at the correct user, this is the first editor I've considered bringing to ANI. Thank you for your advice! I will be raising the case soon. Sarsenet (talk) 06:05, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Consistent rejection of my adequately researched article on a notable person.
Dear Wikipedian,
I have authored a draft article on a notable Rabindra Sangeet singer based in West Bengal (an Indian state/province having the population of a 100 million people - the combined population of the UK and Canada).
I have cited a number of reliable sources on the singer from English as well as Bengali print and other media. However, my article has been rejected on the ground that it has not fulfilled the legitimate criteria of notability—that I must cite articles that pertain directly to the subject rather than having passing references to him.
1) On "signficiant coverage" - The person was famous as a Tier 1 singer in the Rabindra Sangeet genre in West Bengal throughout the 80s and 90s. Thus, his coverage in those sources available online are limited, though far from nonexistent.
2) The sources that I cited all focused solely on the artist—his contribution and legacy—and were not making a mere passing reference to the artist. I can affirm that each one of the sources spoke directly, solely, and in detail about the artist.
3) The sources I cited are all published, reliable, secondary, and independent of the subject. None of them are personal blogs or allied platforms. On the contrary, they are highly credible, established platforms of print and online media in Bengali and English.
To elucidate on point 3:
a) I cited "Anandabazar Patrika" twice—by attaching two articles that solely speak on the legacy of the singer on whom I wrote. " Anandabazar Patrika is the most acclaimed newspaper in Indian Bengali print media, whose daily print circulation exceeded 800,000 in 2022 (by comparison, The Wall Street Journal has less than 650,000 papers in print circulation, The New York Times has less than 300,000, and Prothom Alo, being Bangladesh's largest paper, has about 500,000).
Also, Anandabazar Patrika has been widely cited in the Wikipedia pages of Srikanto Acharya.
b) I also cited Washington Bangla Radio, which is a highly credible source of enquiry into Bengali art and culture, having an enormous coverage and archive of Bengali artistic ventures and artistes. It has been cited by some other fellow Wikipedian in the page on Chinmoy Chatterjee, another prominent Rabindr Sangeet Singer from West Bengal.
c) I went on to cite the Youtube Video on the artist from the official Youtube video of Hindusthan Records, which attributes its information to their own archives.
d) BookMyShow has been cited by me. The same has been cited in the Wikipedia page of another prominent Rabindra Sangeet singer, Srikanto Acharya.
[on Draft:Sreekumar Chatterjee:] Shourjo Roychaudhuri, if there is indeed "significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject [Sreekumar Chatterjee] in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject", then here, in this thread, please nominate three good examples of such sources. (No more than three, please.) -- Hoary (talk) 08:57, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Shourjo Roychaudhuri I think that the main problem is that the sources you use are not independent of Chatterjee as most are based on interviews, where obviously people say what they want. For Wikipedia notability we want mainly to know what sources that have not been fed information by the subject have said about him. Sources do not have to be available online (see WP:OFFLINE). Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:15, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot for your response.
Based on your feedback, I shall remove the information and references based solely on interviews.
In this context, I will mention that the information that I have written in the article are all covered by the independent sources (those unrelated to interviews). However, as a fresher on Wikipedia, I erred in one aspect: I provided multiple references reiterating the same information. This explains why so many references have been included. And many of the interviews that I have provided briefly touch upon the information already affirmed in independent sources. Thus, the content will continue to be supported by sources even if I remove the autobiographical accounts and interviews.
I am grateful to you for having pointed out where exactly I went wrong.
Thank you for your feedback. I will rectify those in my next submission. However, I can assure you that the information provided therein is all authentic, emperical, and verifiable, rather than being dependent upon solely autobiographical accounts. Shourjo Roychaudhuri (talk) 17:49, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Hoary Most certainly. The following three sources are entirely independent -
2) Shottojug Newspaper Article: 31st Edition, published 18th February 1986, section authored by journalist Bankim Chakraborty. Published during the peak of his career, it provides a full-page report extensively covering his early life, career, rise as a radio artist, and the new-found success of his CD albums. It also mentions his international tours.
(1) This is a compilation of his songs, accompanied by a short, unsigned, and highly laudatory text. (It ends "This compilation album is packed with such lovely yet mystical Tagore Songs. Dr. Sreekumar Chatterjee has rendered his rustic and melodious voice to these beautiful Rabindra Sangeet Songs from Bengal.")
(2) This sounds as if it should qualify. I see in a reference to the draft that its title is "Lalitkala - Sreekumar: Sukh-Dukh niyei tar shurer rajjopath"; this is not in a language that I understand, and no link to it is provided. Judging its quality must be a job for somebody who can find it, read it, and understand it.
Problem archiving on Archive.org due to the Cloudflare page
I would like to archive the entirety of this website on Archive.org.
However, I tried with this page and Archive.org only saves the "Verifying you are human. This may take a few seconds" Cloudflare page, and not the content of the website. Same goes for any page of the website.
The owner of the website is an academic who has put all their publications on their website (categorised here), so I think this is important to archive the website.
A user has a problem with me editing the comments she makes on my user talk page. The reply button is grade out. I think she would prefer them to be deleted. How do I delete comments please Sharnadd (talk) 12:23, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For the Reply function to work, it needs a valid sig within the subheading. When you edited the comments on your usertalk to remove the signature of the editors adding them, you broke the Reply feature for those sections. Editing other people's comments is discouraged, even on your own talkpage (where removal is valid): see guidance at WP:TPG. To remove threads, tap "edit full page" from within the "three vertical dots" menu in the upper right. Folly Mox (talk) 13:13, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
When it comes to WP:REFACTORING your talk page, you're welcome to do so, as long as the way in which you make edits do not change the meaning of what has been written by others. You can completely delete entire sections, but caution should be used when removing parts of a section that might lead other people to misunderstand conversation taking place on your talk page. TiggerJay(talk)22:31, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can i revert an accidental GA delistment?
Hi! I accidently delisted Bleeding Through from the GA articles list. It was the last A class article for metal and I intended to comment but I clicked delist because I didn't know what I was doing. Can this please be reverted? Sorry. // Chchcheckit (talk) 15:10, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
aka: i wanted to comment and I thought i was commenting but i was not. Facepalm the nom was working on improving the article as well so. // Chchcheckit (talk) 15:12, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: I believe I have fixed this. I reverted all the script edits related to this article. If there's anything else I need to know about please give me a ping. mftp danoops15:32, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ramkarlo82, An article will only be accepted if its free from any issues. any maintenance template like {{Citation needed}} are only placed to highlight maintenance related issues and that could lead to rejection of any Draft article submitted to Article for creation. Anyway, why should there be any such tag on a draft article yet as its not even accepted.––kemel49(connect)(contri)17:10, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Maproom, I wonder how can an article non even in mainspace (and awaiting review) could contain such maintenance tag. can you please elaborate the scenario as "accepted by a reviewer" could also mean that the article was reviewed by Patroller, while this discussion is about AFC.––kemel49(connect)(contri)17:32, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A cn is a reasonably common tag, it appears and disappears as part of normal editing processes. It's worth keeping in mind though that a lack of a tag does not mean there is not an issue, and a reviewer may identify an issue without a tag present. CMD (talk) 18:04, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ramkarlo82, the simple answer to your OP question, is "No". I agree with kemel49 and CMD; think of "ready for mainspace" and "has a {{cn}} tag" as two completely independent issues. So basically, just forget about the tags for now, and concentrate on the feedback you get from Afc reviewers, and if they are not talking about citations, then you don't need to worry about them. Mathglot (talk) 03:20, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I believe that the document is generally reliable as a description of the events unfolded on that tragic day. That said, who is to blame for the accident was/is a contentious topic, and it could be argued that, while the report does not make claims one way or the other, it is not written in a manner that would comply with WP:NPOV.
I would like to use it only to add facts to the article, giving more details about the exact sequence of events that happened, as the article is based mostly/fully on news reports, which, I believe, actually makes it less WP:NPOV.
Furthermore, the article has factual errors:
ASFA would not warn any train operators of overspeed, only if overspeed caused by exceeding the train's speed design characteristics, or by exceeding a limit imposed by approaching a signal showing "Danger" or "Caution", none of which happened on the accident day. (The exceeded speed restriction was due to a curve, that is, an infrastructure-imposed restriction)
The ERTMS section is poorly worded. The tracks were supposed to have ERTMS (but this had been non-operational for a long time) up to somewhere before the curve. This meant that, true, usual speed restriction signs were missing, but an operational ERTMS would not have warned of that specific restriction, it would only have warned, somewhere before the curve, of a transition to Level 0 (that is, to no supervision).
The article makes no mention that Spain's railway administrator was made well aware of the potential safety problems in that site.
The article makes no mention that a train employee called the train conductor on the company phone, about something unrelated, which made the conductor miss his mental (that is, not marked on the track) mark for applying the brakes.
Although not exactly a factual error, pointing out that the driver had posted a photo to Facebook boasting that he could "drive" at 200 km/h in a high speed train (when Spain's high-speed rail network is, at some places, rated for 350 km/h), is, in my point of view, just sensationalist nonsense.
In general, the sequence of events for the crash could be better explained.
Most/all of this things could be fixed (by me or someone else, I could start to work on it in the following weeks) if I could use the report as a source. Am I allowed to?
And if the citation and by extension claim's inclusion is challenged, be sure to discuss it before readding any information found in it. Departure– (talk) 20:56, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I recently created a draft titled "Draft:Shay Albert Vidas," but it was deleted under G11 for being promotional. I understand the concerns and would like to request that the draft be restored to my user page so I can revise it further.
I plan to rewrite the content to meet Wikipedia’s neutrality and notability standards. Unfortunately, I cannot contact the deleting administrator, Bbb23, directly as their talk page is restricted, and I’m unable to post in the Administrators’ Noticeboard because it is semi-protected.
I would greatly appreciate it if someone could assist me in restoring the draft to my user page or guide me on how to proceed.
In your second and so far final edit to this, Shayvidas, an edit you described as "less promotional", you added:
Shay also manages a Facebook group with over 15,000 members, which has become a vibrant community for watch enthusiasts. Members actively discuss their shared passion for horology, share updates about the brand, and connect with others who appreciate handmade, unique designs. This platform has been instrumental in growing the VIDAS brand and fostering strong connections with collectors worldwide.
And there still were no references. So I have no reason to think that the draft, were it resuscitated, would lead to an article. -- Hoary (talk) 03:04, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would also suggest you take a moment to read the essay WP:PROUD, as you might not really want an article about yourself, as much as it might sound like a good idea right now. TiggerJay(talk)05:02, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How to post on an article's Talk page that you have COI
I need to post on an article's Talk page that I have COI with the subject. Could you give me an idea of what to write, maybe a sort of template to use, as I've never done this before. Augnablik (talk) 03:55, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps == Conflict of interest == [line break] I have a conflict of interest with [what it is that you have a COI with]. ~~~~ -- Hoary (talk) 05:23, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We don’t need to explain what the COI is, or anything further? Somehow I was thinking that would be important, not just a brief admission of COI. Augnablik (talk) 06:02, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Mmm, yes ... thank you, @Hoary, I'd read the COI information some time ago but forgotten there was something about how we could declare it with a particular article. I'm thinking carefully which of the three options I'd like to use when I start in on that article.
It seems to me that the option letting me put a COI userbox about this article on my User page sort of hides my COI from view, and wouldn't be as transparent as the other two options. I'm sort of surprised we can do this, as also that we apparently needn't elaborate on the connection we have with the subject of the article. Augnablik (talk) 09:12, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Which is one of the three options mentioned at the COI guidance page. You certainly found an interesting example, that folk singer herself being a Wiki editor! Augnablik (talk) 09:14, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I'm concerned as the OP (proudly trying out a new acronym I've just learned) of this topic and thread, I think we can let it go on to the archives. First, though, I wanted to share which way I've chosen from the trayful of options all of you offered toward my decision-making. I was just uncomfortable with the idea of slapping one of those impersonal COI templates onto the article's Talk page without at least a little explanation of why I have COI. Yet picking up on Hoary's suggestion of adding a section to the Talk page that merely declared I had COI, not adding any explanation of why, didn't feel quite like "me" either.
When I discussed this further with my mentor, he opened the door to my solution: that I could indeed give an explanation of my COI if I wanted to add it to a section at the article's Talk page. He just voiced caution to follow the K.I.S.S. principle.
Augnablik, I believe that Template:Connected contributor, mentioned above, is the best method. I always thought it was poorly named, and thus very hard to find. If you can tell me some of the searches you performed, maybe we can add some redirects to get people to the right place faster. Mathglot (talk) 02:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mathglot, honestly I doubt that you'd find anything of much value in hearing about my searching to find out about COI. The only thing perhaps a little unusual about my interest in COI would be that in addition to reading the COI policy, which I hadn't read for awhile when I asked the question that started this discussion, I've also been followig a large amount of discussions in the Teahouse and at the Help Desk and Village Pump about this topic, because the topic has been one of great interest and concern to me. And I did ask my mentor a few things about the topic as well. But I must say, there seems to be quite a bit of conflicting advice about whether or not editors should be editing articles if they have COI — even in the COI policy itself. Topic for another discussion, probably... Are you by any chance on a Wiki project to help improve user learning materials? Augnablik (talk) 06:55, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Augnablik, not formally, but I do work a fair bit in that area as the occasion arises. You might be interested to hear about the Wikipedia Education program; they act as a liaison between Wikipedia and formal classes in U.S. & Canadian universities whose students edit Wikipedia as part of their coursework. Wiki Ed has developed student training materials for students in these classes, administrates the program, and deals with student questions. If you want to find out more about their training materials, a good place to start would be at the Wikipedia:Education noticeboard. Mathglot (talk) 08:43, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I heard of that. And as an instructional designer, trainer, and teacher I’ve been thinking about following up on it … after dealing with my COI issues and related editing. Augnablik (talk) 08:56, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sure there's an easy remedy, but I'm lost at the moment. The dimension in the infobox are wrong. The statue is 6-feet (1.8 m) tall and 2.5-feet (0.8 m) wide. The infobox says 6 cm × 2.5 cm (1.8 in × 0.8 in). I tried switching the parameters from Template:Infobox artwork but it's still showing up in cm. APKhi :-) (talk) 04:47, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed... What you were missing was metric_unit and imperial_unit, by default it uses cm and inches respectively. Simply setting those to meters and feet resolved the problem. TiggerJay(talk)04:59, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
On this page Norway women's national handball team in the info box on the right side, under Results, then under World Championship in the Appearances section it says '22 (First in 1971)'. Once you click on 1971, the link correctly takes you to the Women's World Cup that year.
However, on this page Slovenia women's national handball team in the same section where it says '8 (First in 1997)' if you click on 1997, the link incorrectly takes you to the Men's World Cup that year.
If you go to 'edit source', you will see that details are not provided there, it just says 1971 in the first instance and 1997 in the second, without any links. How can the problem on the second page be solved, so that the link is for the Women's World Cup in 1997?
Hello, @NoWikiNoLife. The difference is that in the Slovenia article the parameter is Type with a capital T, while in the Norway case it is type with a small one.
If you look at Template:Infobox national netball team, most of the parameters start with a capital letter, except name, type, update, and the parameters relating to kit. Also, this is wrong in the "Usage" section of the template doc.
Hi - we used to have a hyperlink to NJ music venues holding 1000 patrons or over on the "Music of New Jersey" page. But now the list has been reformatted
@Bhdshoes2 It looks as though the target page will need an anchor, which it may once have had that was deleted. That list is so long and complicated with all its tables, I'm not going to try to fix it but you might like to try! Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:33, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(ec) An anchor should fix this... but it also looks like Mike is working on this for you. Although I would still think it might not be a bad idea to break out the US venues into their own list. TiggerJay(talk)15:41, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm trying to add a paragraph break after the following sentece: Newell opted to found Valve instead of retiring as he felt working with "other really smart, motivated, socially-orientated people to create product that would affect millions of other people" was "the most fun I could have". For some reason, it won't appear. What am I doing wrong? Popcornfud (talk) 15:32, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please help me! My draft which i prepared about a famous social media influencer has been declined by wikipedia for submission.i have correctly cited and did not do any copy paste. Please do the needful.
Can someone point me towards guidance on how best to summarize content on main pages that is expanded on in other pages, and how to link between the two, etc.? I checked through the guidelines navbox but nothing jumped out at me. For context, I am trying to coordinate Greater Richmond Region and its constituent localities, especially Richmond, Virginia. However, I don't want to put the information solely in the "correct location" at the expense of our readers.
How do I fixed a usurped official website URL being picked up from Wikidata?
Gday fellow pedians!
I noticed the official website URL at the end of the article It (2017 film), listed in the external links with "official website" tagging, has been usurped by some commercial store. It's being picked up from wikidataitem d:Q25136484. I've changed the official website status there to usurped and put an end date against the statement, also added an archive URL from Wayback. However, Wikipedia still picks up and shows the usurped URL from the official website statement. Is there a way to fix this? What am I doing wrong? Thank you! 45154james (talk) 08:43, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to ask a question about uploading a picture. Few days ago, one of my pictures I uploaded was deleted from Wikipedia. It was said, due to copyright issues. So I asked the original owner of the pictures, and he granted me permission to use it. How can I reupload a picture without they remove it again? Kgbalint (talk) 09:54, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kgbalint: You cannot upload it at all, unless the copyright owner licenses it under a CC-BY-SA license that allows anyone uses it for any purpose. The copyright owner is generally the original photographer. The simplest way to do that is for the owner to put that license on the picture on some web site under the owner's control. Another method is for the owner (not you) to upload the picture to Wikipedia Commons and license it there. -Arch dude (talk) 11:11, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, @Kgbalint. Wikipedia (and other Wikimedia sites, such as Commons) are much more careful about copyright than many sites on the internet. Also, part of the purpose of Wikipedia and other Wikimedia sites is to provide a stock of freely-reusable information.
This means that it is not enough for the copyright holder to "grant permission" for their pictures to be used in Wikipedia: the copyright owner must explicitly release the images in a way that anybody may reuse or alter them for any purpose. The usual way to do this is to release the images under a permissive licence such as WP:CC-BY-SA. Only the copyright owner has the legal power to do this - not the subject of the picture (unless they are also the copyright owner), nor anybody else. donating copyright materials tells them what they need to do.
Also, for this File:AEON-GODS-King-of-Gods-Cover.webp to remain on Commons, you should direct the copyright holder (I'm guessing the artist, but I don't know that) to COM:VRT/CONSENT. You have marked it as "This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International license.", but there is no indication of that at the source-website. I'm actually doubtful the copyright holder would be ok with that, but it's possible. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:30, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, I read the article Yugoslav submarine Mališan and noticed reference #12 (Freivogel, Zvonimir (2021). Warships of the Yugoslav Navy: Yugoslav Warships and their Fates 1945–1991. Zagreb, Croatia: Despot Infinitus. ISBN 978-953-366-006-6). However, I am unsure how to access this book online to verify the information. I hope you can assist me. Thank you, and have a nice day! P. ĐĂNG (talk) 14:47, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
P. ĐĂNG, assuming that this WorldCat link is the book you are looking for, according to WorldCat, there is only one library in the world that has a copy of it: the British Library, St. Pancras, London. Their website is currently down or limited due to a cyberattack (Contact page), but you could try calling or emailing them at customer@bl.uk and if you are lucky, they will pull the book for you and look up the information and get back to you, if it is just a matter of verifying an assertion in the article. Alternatively, you could ask the editor who added the citation if they have a copy of it. As there are multiple citations to Freivogel in the article but no #12 that does, I can't determine which part of the article text you are referring to; however, one editor who cited the Freivogel article was Peacemaker67 on October 2, 2023 (here); he also added the citation to the Bibliography a few days earlier. You could ask him if he has a copy of the book, or can get one.
P.S. come to think of it, the cyberattack is probably limiting their library list function, so maybe lots of other libraries have it, too, and their website will show you the library closest to you that has it when the website is fully functional; maybe try again in a day or two. Mathglot (talk) 00:22, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have emailed Peacemaker67 to request access to a copy of the book as he suggested. Thank you all for your enthusiastic assistance. Wishing you and your family a wonderful day. P. ĐĂNG (talk) 04:22, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sanidelle Nova TV has a meta "noindex,nofollow" instruction to search engines (Html line 29) because it hasn't been patrolled; the women's soccer article does not have this, and is already indexed and findable on Google search, as expected. Mathglot (talk) 23:31, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Multiple times, I've had mentees ask me duplicates of the same question, or their actual question followed by another "question" that is a comment they meant to append to the first one. I suspect the form they use to ask questions is misleading/does not properly inform them, leading to these mistakes. Anyone have a screenshot? Mach6118:08, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mach61, I'm not good at screenshots. The button is on a user's "Homepage" tab in a box partway down on the right that introduced the mentor. It is a rectangle that says "Ask your mentor a question about editing". In the mobile view only part of the mentor section is available but there is a "?" on the mentor icon. Clicking that brings up the rectangle that serves as the button. You can enable your own newcomer Homepage and see what newcomers see by going to the very bottom of the "User Profile" tab in "Preferences". Hope this helps. StarryGrandma (talk) 19:05, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Re: Paul Martin (illustrator). He attended an art school in the early 1900s. It's stated in the article and backed up with a reference from the New York Times. But the article also states the years he attended and his instructors. That can only be backed up with the old record cards (similar to 3x5 cards) on file. I received a scan of them, but I don't think the picture can be downloaded to Commons due to copyright issues. Do they still apply to something dated to 1906? That date is on the card. Can the picture be downloaded to Wayback instead and reachable via a reference in the WP article? Can the picture just be downsized? Thanks. JimPercy (talk) 11:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Half of bytes is in references and hiddens necessary to back up content. Yes, I know that what you mentioned is a weakness. I'll get rid of if no alternative exist. JimPercy (talk) 14:07, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
JimPercy, whence did you receive the scan? Offline materials that can be accessed at or requested from institutional archives can still be cited with {{cite archive}}. If received from someone's personal collection, the information cannot be cited at all, even if you upload it somewhere, due to the unverifiable paper trail. Folly Mox (talk) 13:50, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How to nominate a website for blacklisting
Over the years, several IP editors have attempted to insert links to a certain commercial website. I think it is time to blacklist that website. Constant314 (talk) 13:36, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Facepalm the nom was working on improving the article as well so. // Chchcheckit (talk) 15:12, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
Gnu779 (talk) 13:42, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
